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11-01-2009, 05:29 PM
Mike | Kit # - Serial # - Production #
I was under the impression that the kit and serial numbers were the same. Is this true....? Which came 1st the chicken or the egg..?
11-01-2009, 10:13 PM
Tom Saccio | Kit#
The kit number and serial number are not the same. My kit number is 143 and my serial number is 61. Tom saccio
11-02-2009, 06:19 AM
Mike | Default
I am trying to update the Registry Data Table on the website.
When were the kit numbers issued...?
11-03-2009, 05:40 AM
rwolf | Dick Wolf
Kit numbers were assigned at the time of kit ordering. Serial numbers were assigned on request to SNA, typically near the end of construction. The serial number is required to register the plane with the FAA.
11-03-2009, 07:47 AM
Mike | Default
If "any" company does not exist, how would one register a kit if one doesn't have or can't get a serial number...?
11-04-2009, 01:04 PM
Larry Brunzlick | Serial numbers
This is a copy and paste of post number 3250 from the old forum. I plan to follow this route and not bother with the seawind company.
Posted by 'Hank' 04/06/08
I spoke with one of the managers of my local FSDO about this on Friday. He said when licensing an experimental/amateur built aircraft you DO NOT need a Serial Number from Seawind. That just may be for there own records but not for the FAA. He went on to say that theoretically, every Seawind could be S/N 001, because Seawind is the Model not the MAKE, you as the "manufacturer" are the MAKE. He also said that if you happen to built 2 Seawinds, then you could not use the same S/N at that time. One other note here, Paul said that, "A Serial Number wasn't issued until the owner requested it. Usually because he wants to get an N-Number", this is NOT correct, you do not even need to have an aircraft to register an N-Number, check out the FAA website and see how many registered N-Numbers are there with no aircraft listed, I have one myself!!!! Paul also said that, "The Serial Number, when assigned, should be stamped on metal manufacturers plate installed on the tail of the aircraft by the kit builder/owner when it is completed." This is true, but it does NOT have to be the Seawind S/N that they give you, it can be any number you want, even lets say S/N2008-000001000012345. Remember, YOU are the Manufacturer, you give it the S/N that you want, you can even make the S/N and the N-Number the same if you prefer. The FAA does not really care, so long as there is a S/N there that makes it unique to that aircraft. When anyone has these types of questions, do what I do, call your local FAA FSDO and ask them, they are the governing body, not Seawind, they just manufactures the kit parts for you to finish, because they say it so, does not make it entirely correct. As for Duane and his compilation of parts.... you should not have any trouble getting this approved as an experimental/amateur built aircraft, as you are the Manufacturer of those parts and do not need their S/N for you to go to the FAA with. Good Luck and I am sure I will get a lot of crap over this.
Larry
Mike | Kit # - Serial # - Production #
I was under the impression that the kit and serial numbers were the same. Is this true....? Which came 1st the chicken or the egg..?
11-01-2009, 10:13 PM
Tom Saccio | Kit#
The kit number and serial number are not the same. My kit number is 143 and my serial number is 61. Tom saccio
11-02-2009, 06:19 AM
Mike | Default
I am trying to update the Registry Data Table on the website.
When were the kit numbers issued...?
11-03-2009, 05:40 AM
rwolf | Dick Wolf
Kit numbers were assigned at the time of kit ordering. Serial numbers were assigned on request to SNA, typically near the end of construction. The serial number is required to register the plane with the FAA.
11-03-2009, 07:47 AM
Mike | Default
If "any" company does not exist, how would one register a kit if one doesn't have or can't get a serial number...?
11-04-2009, 01:04 PM
Larry Brunzlick | Serial numbers
This is a copy and paste of post number 3250 from the old forum. I plan to follow this route and not bother with the seawind company.
Posted by 'Hank' 04/06/08
I spoke with one of the managers of my local FSDO about this on Friday. He said when licensing an experimental/amateur built aircraft you DO NOT need a Serial Number from Seawind. That just may be for there own records but not for the FAA. He went on to say that theoretically, every Seawind could be S/N 001, because Seawind is the Model not the MAKE, you as the "manufacturer" are the MAKE. He also said that if you happen to built 2 Seawinds, then you could not use the same S/N at that time. One other note here, Paul said that, "A Serial Number wasn't issued until the owner requested it. Usually because he wants to get an N-Number", this is NOT correct, you do not even need to have an aircraft to register an N-Number, check out the FAA website and see how many registered N-Numbers are there with no aircraft listed, I have one myself!!!! Paul also said that, "The Serial Number, when assigned, should be stamped on metal manufacturers plate installed on the tail of the aircraft by the kit builder/owner when it is completed." This is true, but it does NOT have to be the Seawind S/N that they give you, it can be any number you want, even lets say S/N2008-000001000012345. Remember, YOU are the Manufacturer, you give it the S/N that you want, you can even make the S/N and the N-Number the same if you prefer. The FAA does not really care, so long as there is a S/N there that makes it unique to that aircraft. When anyone has these types of questions, do what I do, call your local FAA FSDO and ask them, they are the governing body, not Seawind, they just manufactures the kit parts for you to finish, because they say it so, does not make it entirely correct. As for Duane and his compilation of parts.... you should not have any trouble getting this approved as an experimental/amateur built aircraft, as you are the Manufacturer of those parts and do not need their S/N for you to go to the FAA with. Good Luck and I am sure I will get a lot of crap over this.
Larry